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Daluz · Jun 02, 2008, 05:56 PM // 17:56

Heya,

I'm running with 3 heroes, at the moment.

I have 2 Necros which I use, one of them is a Jagged Bones MM and the other is a SS necro. I don't have access to a 3rd necro right now to truly abuse of soul reaping

, so I'm just wondering, what do you think would be my best 3rd choice ?

I play a Ranger btw.

Thanks

The Meth · Jun 02, 2008, 06:12 PM // 18:12

[Splinter Weapon][Ancestor's Rage][Offering of Spirit][Spirit Light][Soothing Memories][Protective Was Kaolai][Life][Flesh of my Flesh]

14 Channeling, 13 Restoration

This requires a bit of micro of [Offering of Spirit], but if you do that it has nearly as much energy as a N/Rt healer, slightly stronger heals, and can buff your party with [Splinter Weapon] which is pretty much the strongest damage skill in the game.

DarkSpirit · Jun 02, 2008, 06:27 PM // 18:27

Use sabway for the SS necro and MM necro like you have. Then for the third restore healer N/Rt, use an Ele instead, with this build:

[build name="Ether Restoration Ele" prof=E/Rt box ene=12+1+1 res=12][Ether Renewal][Aura of Restoration][Weapon of Warding][Mend Body and Soul][Spirit Light][Protective Was Kaolai][Life][Death Pact Signet][/build]

The Ele seems to work better for me anyway. Even though I have access to 3 necro heroes, I am only using 2 and this Ele hero.

Daluz · Jun 02, 2008, 06:32 PM // 18:32

alright, i ll give that a try after i unlock some rit skills

Proff · Jun 02, 2008, 06:53 PM // 18:53

Mind blast ele with wards/utility and leave the healing to henchies.

itsvictor · Jun 02, 2008, 09:37 PM // 21:37

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Originally Posted by The Meth

[Splinter Weapon][Ancestor's Rage][Offering of Spirit][Spirit Light][Soothing Memories][Protective Was Kaolai][Life][Flesh of my Flesh]

14 Channeling, 13 Restoration

This requires a bit of micro of [Offering of Spirit], but if you do that it has nearly as much energy as a N/Rt healer, slightly stronger heals, and can buff your party with [Splinter Weapon] which is pretty much the strongest damage skill in the game.

Except I use weapon of warding instead of soothing memories. Blocking is ftw.

MisterT69 · Jun 02, 2008, 10:28 PM // 22:28

Have Razah or Xandra run MM, explosive creation + spawning power=win

Lord Galdir · Jun 02, 2008, 10:34 PM // 22:34

I used Razah with a channeling/curses hybrid.
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IMO change the SS to an N/Rt healer.

Coney · Apr 22, 2009, 01:10 AM // 01:10

I really wanted something Rt/P and came up with the following:
[build=OAmiEym8wj3x54o5kbYOOTuA]
Seems to work well, I personally equip [blood ritual] and keep Xandra well buffed (as well as other N/X heros and Mo&Me henchmen).

Completed 3 Prophesies HM missions with masters so far, very nice build!!! Some micro'ing required, but not much...

Paul Dawg · Apr 22, 2009, 05:26 AM // 05:26

QFT, though a rit MM is not going to be quite as good as a necro MM.

The other possibility is to bring a monk hero with a bar based on skills like [word of healing] and [dwayna's sorrow].

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Originally Posted by MisterT69

Have Razah or Xandra run MM, explosive creation + spawning power=win

wilebill · Apr 22, 2009, 12:01 PM // 12:01

A Ray of Judgement Smiting Monk can be quite useful as the third in areas with conditions and hexes.

A Motivation Paragon also works.

Super Igor · Apr 22, 2009, 04:20 PM // 16:20

[build prof=e/rt box energy=14 resto=12][ether prism][aura of restoration][weapon of warding][protective was kaolai][spirit light][mend body and soul][life][death pact signet][/build]

energy management is almost as good as on n/rt 3 sec of near invincibility is also nice. <3
its actually better than n/rt at dodging annoying nukes from bosses and keeps gaining energy regrdless of things dieing or not so it wont go emo if something goes wrong. :3

Xenomortis · Apr 22, 2009, 05:05 PM // 17:05

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Originally Posted by DarkSpirit

Use sabway for the SS necro and MM necro like you have. Then for the third restore healer N/Rt, use an Ele instead, with this build:

[build name="Ether Restoration Ele" prof=E/Rt box ene=12+1+1 res=12][Ether Renewal][Aura of Restoration][Weapon of Warding][Mend Body and Soul][Spirit Light][Protective Was Kaolai][Life][Death Pact Signet][/build]

The Ele seems to work better for me anyway. Even though I have access to 3 necro heroes, I am only using 2 and this Ele hero.

If you're running an ER hero, I'd consider swapping to to an Ele/Mo and have it spam all those lovely prot skills (Spirit Bond and the like).

As for me, I'd consider taking a paragon hero. Not sure what I'd equip it with though, as I'm not good with paragon bars.

AtomicMew · Apr 23, 2009, 07:28 AM // 07:28

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Originally Posted by Xenomortis

If you're running an ER hero, I'd consider swapping to to an Ele/Mo and have it spam all those lovely prot skills (Spirit Bond and the like).

As for me, I'd consider taking a paragon hero. Not sure what I'd equip it with though, as I'm not good with paragon bars.

The E/Mo is an inferior build. Not enough redbar. Weapon of warding is also a prot, anyway, and you can take prot spirit on the MM.

Also, I agree with Igor that Prism is better than ER since heroes will use it better.

Daesu · Apr 23, 2009, 06:31 PM // 18:31

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Originally Posted by Super Igor

[build prof=e/rt box energy=14 resto=12][ether prism][aura of restoration][weapon of warding][protective was kaolai][spirit light][mend body and soul][life][death pact signet][/build]

energy management is almost as good as on n/rt 3 sec of near invincibility is also nice. <3
its actually better than n/rt at dodging annoying nukes from bosses and keeps gaining energy regrdless of things dieing or not so it wont go emo if something goes wrong. :3

3 or 4 seconds of near invincibility on a 15s recharge spell is not as good. That leaves you vulnerable for about 11s and it doesn't stop life steals.

Ether Renewal at level 14 lasts for about 23s (with an enchantment staff), which leaves the hero 7s without it. It is not just the energy, but ER also replenishes hp.

I dont know, maybe I would I prefer it, or not, if I try it out.

Snorph · Apr 23, 2009, 07:12 PM // 19:12

I to run this sort of build on 2 necro heros, but I dont have factions and I dont have my last necro. I only own Prof, Nightfall, and EOTN. I am looking for a good 3rd hero build to help.

Xenomortis · Apr 23, 2009, 10:09 PM // 22:09

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Originally Posted by traversc

The E/Mo is an inferior build. Not enough redbar. Weapon of warding is also a prot, anyway, and you can take prot spirit on the MM.

The point is, the hero should spam Prot Spirit and Spirit Bond so much, that you won't need that much healing. I will admit, I don't actually know how well a hero spams those skills, so take my statement with whatever quantity of salt you want.
Besides, you'll probably have a second hero/henchman healer anyway.

The ether prism idea sounds nice though. Looks like it would work nicely with the more efficient ritualist skills.

Paul Dawg · Apr 24, 2009, 12:19 AM // 00:19

How well do heroes use [protective spirit] and [spirit bond (pve)]? Answer: Not well. They tend to spam [spirit bond (pve)] without any rhyme or reason, and end up blowing themselves out of energy. They're slightly better at [protective spirit], in that the longer recharge keeps them from blowing out their energy with it, but they're not particularly clever at knowing when it is needed. They just sort of randomly fire it off--every once in a while you notice that the hero cast it on you, but it's never anything you can rely on.

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Originally Posted by Xenomortis

The point is, the hero should spam Prot Spirit and Spirit Bond so much, that you won't need that much healing. I will admit, I don't actually know how well a hero spams those skills, so take my statement with whatever quantity of salt you want.

Daesu · Apr 24, 2009, 01:10 AM // 01:10

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Originally Posted by Paul Dawg

How well do heroes use [protective spirit] and [spirit bond (pve)]? Answer: Not well. They tend to spam [spirit bond (pve)] without any rhyme or reason, and end up blowing themselves out of energy. They're slightly better at [protective spirit], in that the longer recharge keeps them from blowing out their energy with it, but they're not particularly clever at knowing when it is needed. They just sort of randomly fire it off--every once in a while you notice that the hero cast it on you, but it's never anything you can rely on.

No heroes just suck with [protective spirit] too, as they do for SB, and its 3s longer recharge doesn't help.

But with an almost unlimited energy build, spamming PS or SB is not an issue.

brakner · Apr 24, 2009, 03:12 PM // 15:12

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Originally Posted by Snorph

I to run this sort of build on 2 necro heros, but I dont have factions and I dont have my last necro. I only own Prof, Nightfall, and EOTN. I am looking for a good 3rd hero build to help.

Why not just get the third Nec? Master is in NF near the beginning of the main quest line on the mainland. Olias is available at the Consolidated Docks mission ( as long as you own Prophecies ) , he is a very fast quest near Lions Arch. Livia is available in EoTN after a fairly fast quest chain ending with Finding the Bloodstone.

It took my new Nec about 3 hours to gather all 3 of them up once I reached the mainland in NF.